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Mini-course raises issues of sexism and racism

By Ming Tseng

Guest Columnist

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Published: Wednesday, April 1, 2009

Updated: Thursday, April 2, 2009

The Language of Ladies, a College-approved mini-course taught by Daniel Abramson ’12 on dating “women of different national backgrounds,” has unknowingly created an opportunity for educating students about colonial history and issues of race and gender.

There is no doubt that the first class had problematic points, but we are here at Vassar not to silence and eject offenders but to receive and give an education. I see what went on at the first Language of Ladies class as a teaching moment, for Vassar and its students to achieve basic educational aims rather than simply attack and punish a peer.

When I spoke to the instructor of the class, he said “The central intentions [of the class] were to give guys a greater sense of confidence when talking to women and not to produce discriminations in their viewpoint but to give them a more worldly sense of traditions and cultures.”

Given that our College can feel like a hyper-feminist campus, I can see the need for a space where straight males can have a forum. An insightful class on talking to women is something basic that we could all use. This may sound problematic. There is a part of me that clamors, “But the world is their forum,” but the fact remains that they are a minority on this campus. It is better to have a class where we as peers can make sure the discussion is insightful and does not objectify women or races. I also acknowledge that the focus of this article does not break down the gender and sexual binary that this class reinforces; however, I am questioning the class on its own basis.

The fact remains that we all need awareness about the socio-political space that we are participating in; that’s why we’re at Vassar: to get an education and become thoughtful citizens of a globalizing world. Occasionally this means that we have to set aside our subscription to The Life and Times of the PC Police. More importantly, we must understand and educate those who commit an unknowing offense. We must also be willing to admit wrongs and accept guidance.

The first class of The Language of Ladies was entitled “Orienting Yourself for Women of the Orient.” This sparked some discussion of the word “Orient” and its degrading connotations. What it points to is an entire colonialist narrative that has made “Asian” women objects of lust and feminized “Asian” men. I say “Asian” because Orientalism applies not just to East Asians but to Indians, Iranians and South East Asians—any country that was colonized by another country has been subject to Orientalism.

That said, “Orient” is just a word and the instructor recognized and apologized for his ignorance of the word’s connotations during the class, because the issue was brought up to him. And as many people have acknowledged, there were some culturally illuminating points to the instructor’s presentation, and the problematic aspects were the stereotypes that were put forth by the instructor and by the guest lecturer.

Audience member Reese Wong ’10 said, “Some points Dan made about body language, politeness, common greeting customs, and the manner in which phone numbers are exchanged in Japan were valuable tips for people traveling to Japan, but I took offense to many of the stereotypical ways that Japanese women were described.” In the guest lecturer’s presentation, Japanese women were characterized as shy and giving, among other essentializing descriptions. The instructor admits that he did not collaborate with the guest lecturer and read over the presentation; therefore, he takes full responsibility for allowing those stereotypes to be reinforced.

Reducing a nation of diverse people to essential components has historically been used to justify oppression and colonization; that is why stereotypes cannot be perpetuated in a setting where someone is claiming authority on a people group. Racial stereotypes exist consciously and unconsciously, but reinforcing them instead of working against them makes us complicit in their disgusting history. However, if we only punish and silence those who accidentally use politically incorrect words instead of educating them, we are not addressing the underlying attitudes that feed racial and gender stereotypes.

The instructor seems to have taken his lesson to heart and has promised changes in future lectures: “Female ‘guest lecturers’ speaking from their lifelong experience in the country would create a better discussion because an individual coming from the culturally unique place would better represent its unique culture rather than present stereotypes.”

This creates an important opportunity for all members of this College to participate in creating a constructive dialogue that doesn’t just chastise, but changes and reforms the way we all talk about race and gender. While ideally Vassar should ensure that mini-courses, even if perceived as jokes, are aware of the political and social space they tread on, I hope that mistakes in the future can be seen as teaching moments.
 

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47 comments

VC 2006
Thu Apr 9 2009 15:06
When I was at Vassar, the men had no trouble finding ladies because of the skewed ratio. I find this class more amusing (and slightly offensive) than anything else. Why is an 18 year old trying to teach others how to pick up women of different races. If the guy can't do it on his own, maybe he's not worthy.
OL
Thu Apr 9 2009 03:31
Take these as questions and not accusations, please. I'm just curious. If this course was a matter of teaching men the confidence to pick up women, why even bring broad national generalizations into the picture? Doesn't teaching cultural habits of females around the world only help, supposedly, if you're a man specifically looking for women of a certain race/nationality? Wouldn't it be more prudent to teach social psychological aspect of human sexuality, thus making someone a better "pick-up" artist for all women?
Your name
Wed Apr 8 2009 03:07
b/c you wanna call a discussion about the presence of "colonialist" terms in the Town of Poughkeepise a meaningful discussion?
'09
Wed Apr 8 2009 01:38
Ivy League freshmen, however, are open-minded, intelligent individuals who contribute meaningful and insightful commentary to public dialogue.
IvyLeague12
Tue Apr 7 2009 17:47
Vassar people are dumb. LOL
Your name
Tue Apr 7 2009 17:46
Whether you agree with the premise or not, just goes to show how much Vassar college's coursework is a joke... Has been for a long time. How does this even get approved....
Balls Action
Tue Apr 7 2009 03:12
Ming offers a very thoughtful and balanced critique of the class, but that doesn't speak for the other uptight people who got the course cancelled (ie not Ming). In truth, I think most people in opposition to the class either

1) never showed up

2) came with a stick up their asses looking to be offended and pounce on Dan

3) Are not post-"politically-correct 1990's era politics" enough to get the humor

This class wasn't Coca-Cola. It wasn't guilty of human rights violations unless being too facetious is one. Being offended at everything you could possibly get offended at is stupid. Have more fun. Dan was crucified by the PC mob and is our messiah... not really, but anyways, did I offend any Christians with that statement, please ban me from life!

Your name
Mon Apr 6 2009 03:40
Seems like what could have been self-aware, race and gender-probing humor was turned into a half sincere (e.g. presumptuous guest lecturer), half delightfully absurd (e.g. saying welcome in ALL LANGUAGES), mostly confused, ambling corpse of a class caused by poor administration and a whole lot of misunderstanding. Goddamn this post-ironic, post 9/11, post-it note world!
Wesley Willis
Fri Apr 3 2009 08:06
I think a lot of the controversy could have been averted had the course been presented with its original title, "The Art of Nailing Chicks."
PC
Thu Apr 2 2009 23:14
You want to tell minorities to stop overreacting? You want to talk about race? Ok, hmmm. Why are white people always the first ones to bitch about the slightest affront to their privilege? Even with the whole world, Fox News, and history on their side, whitey's first response is to make it all about himself, INSTEAD of trying to identify with or at least listen to what the insulted people are saying. The white narrative carries forth defensively: "Not all of us are oppressors, you don't understand the plight of the white man; this is, wah wah CENSORSHIP poor me...don't you understand my comedy?" Hate to stoop to the unseemly whitey talk but I'm just coming in at your level, putting all that racialized mess on the table. Before you condemned the ASA for their "tightassedness," did it ever occur to you to give credence to their staunchly humorless attitude? The class, for all its supposed cleverness, resisted comedy theory 101 - when you make fun of something, you are still the butt of the joke. Like when Ricky Gervais says racist shit that seems to assert cultural hegemony, the audience laughs because Mr. Gervais is COMPLETELY aware that he is being an idiot; you know he knows better. The boys in charge of this course though, are the last ones to think they are doing anything wrong; they ~don't~ know better, as evidenced by so many of their supporters claiming that their course is in harmless ignorant fun. Women of Color have taken this as a hostile affront to their well-being, which is as far from harmless as you can get. Whatever the creator's intentions, the fact remains that many of his peers were hurt and felt violated just for being the race and gender they are. I will laugh when I find something funny, like when the same white kids who robustly supported the mini course teach a class illuminating the culture of smug white boys who create hegemonic spaces in which to masturbate all their minority dreams into oblivion. That's a culture I'd love to not only learn about, but laugh at, in the best tongue-in-cheek manner possible.
SW
Thu Apr 2 2009 22:23
The purpose of the article was not to cancel the class, but to educate people regarding the potential stereotypes and wrong cultural perspectives that could stem from it. From the way the article was written, Ming did not want the class to be canceled, but rather for future classes to be much more aware of what they are doing and the repercussions and reactions that are involved. In the case of the previous class focusing on women in Japan, it should be imperative and clear that the powerpoint includes mainly points that are from an individual's perspective and not true for all Japanese women. And also, it might have been better to also invite students who are here as exchange students from Japan, since I'm sure they would know a lot more about women in Japan, being a native of Japan. The main issue with the course was not exactly its content, but the way the content was portrayed and moderated. We have already gone through discussing why some would be offended by the title, and it seems pretty clear that the instructor of this course is willing to change and learn from this experience. In that case, the mini-course should continue, and it would be interesting to see what people can learn from the changes that will occur in the course regarding cultural sensitivity, views on stereotypes, and political correctness as well. And regarding political correctness, it is okay to joke around once in awhile with your close friends who clearly realize that you're joking, but for people who don't know you well enough, derogatory terms might, or will probably be taken offensively since they would not know whether or not you're joking or not.
Nick
Thu Apr 2 2009 14:23
I'm not part Japanese. My talk in poor taste. Dan wanted me to speak for his new course and I obliged. I didn't expect a pitchfork-wielding mob to show up and I was put on the defensive. Sorry to anyone I pissed off but you're all overreacting (on both sides). Big up yerself.
Your name
Thu Apr 2 2009 13:11
The thing that bothers me the most is that some of you think that bringing a "person of Japanese descent or who has lived in Japan" to guest-lecture in the class brings the rampant tokenization that takes place at Vassar to much greater heights!! It really is not fun to be a minority at Vassar. I mean it's fun I guess, but it's not fun to be tokenized. Ming, it's unfortunate that the Misc re-titled your article, because for me it was much more about the intersectionality between race and gender than it was about one or the other or sexism. I think this whole "discussion" is very very demonstrative of the chasm between people who are educated in power structures, or even exposed to them, and people who are ignorant of them. Just like what "M" said, about reading Said. Maybe everyone should read Said during freshman week, so that we can avoid all this backing and forthing on the Misc web site. I also think people also take issue with this mini-course because it was institutionalized, in the sense that the college approved AND ESSENTIALIZING ~IS~ A WORD!!!! "Essentializing means attributing natural, essential characteristics to members of specific culturally defined (gender, age, ethnic, "racial", socioeconomic, linguistic...) groups. When we essentialize others, we assume that individual differences can be explained by inherent, biological, "natural" characteristics shared by members of a group. Essentializing results in thinking, speaking and acting in ways that promote stereotypical and inaccurate interpretations of individual differences. For example, feminists note that people essentialize women when they assume that girls and women are naturally emotional (versus rational), nurturant, docile, weak, vain, dependent (and so on)." (it won't let me paste the source)
Went to Japan, Went to the Class with an open mind (lightly salted), Male
Thu Apr 2 2009 12:55
Dear female class attendee, 1. You stated "Someone who has Japanese ancestors but lives in North America does not necessarily know about current Japanese culture." That would describe the guest lecturer by your statements of him, "The guest lecturer was part Japanese so he did have knowledge beyond his two months in the country". 2. The previous statement is proven true by the fact that he made the mistake that Ropoggi, the foreigner district of Tokyo, solely serves for Japanese women to meet white/foreign men shows just how much much he knows. He stated that it was "unique" in Japan that the women there love foreigners when that's not the case at all especially here in America where Asian women are fetishized. Then he stated that a great line to use to pick up Japanese women is "ochai demo shinai" which roughly translates to "would you like tea (with me)?" Seriously? I wouldn't go around asking American women if they'd like to grab a tasty hamburger much less offer that as advice. So that goes to show how much he "knows" Japan. What I learned from what he said is that I have to be foreign and must like the taste of tea to pick up Japanese women. 3. As I recall, some ASA members did speak up about some of the issues brought up in the class, such as the ones I talked about above so your statement about how ASA did not take an active role is false. Also, I'm sure if ASA really wanted to go behind the back of the lecturer if would have been easier for them to have complained about the use of Orient, a racially charged word, to the administration , not even go to the class, and gotten it pulled before it even happened. Instead, they went, with an open mind albeit with a gram of salt, and listened in. 4. And while you might "truly believe" that he didn't try to stereotype and while he might not have set out to do that, it happened. Stereotyping happened. Japanese women were characterized as shy, nice, quiet little girls that giggle with which other. Great.
A concerned individual
Thu Apr 2 2009 12:07
Dear 2011, Why should you monopolize the right to be ridiculous?
female class attendee
Thu Apr 2 2009 11:43
Dear Weezy F, 1.The guest lecturer was part Japanese so he did have knowledge beyond his two months in the country, also I truly believe he did not try to box japanese women into stereotypes but merely stated what he had noticed during his trip.( a trip many of the ASA members had not made themselves), 2. Yes it would have been great to have an Asian female lecturer, but it would have been just as wrong to have a Asian American female teach the class who had never been to Japan, as the class was about Japanese culture not the race. Someone who has Japanese ancestors but lives in North America does not necessarily know about current Japanese culture. But yes it would have been nice to have a Japanese Female lecturer, and there would have been if the ASA had embraced or constructively criticized class instead of chastising the class. I wish that the Asian members who attended the class would have taken an active role in the classroom and informed all of us of the mistakes, instead of just complaining and getting the class canceled behind the creator's back.
hahaha
Thu Apr 2 2009 11:32
Seems to me that a bunch of white boys are mad because the Asian women they claimed to be shy turned out not to be shy after all, thus disproving their entire lecture and their chances of "holla-ing" at them. ;)
J
Thu Apr 2 2009 11:29
I think that Ming does a great job of pointing out that there could have been productive ways to have this conversation. Dating is difficult -- both here and when you're in a place where you are not sure of cultural norms and expectations. However, it does not appear that Daniel Abramson used any of the myriad of resources available on this campus to create a dialogue that could be both meaningful and culturally sensitive. There are faculty and administrative offices that would have been more than happy to provide him or his guest lecturers with materials and resources to make these conversations meaningful. And, I'm sure any number of student organizations, including the ASA, Poder Latino, VISA, and other groups would have been happy to provide a panel of students to ensure that a variety of voices and experiences were represented. What concerns me the most is that I think that playing the "I didn't know" card is too easy of an excuse. Only the most dense of students would not think about the potential impact and reaction to publicly advertising a course that promises to discuss cultural interactions and dating. The entire campus was emailed about the class -- and it never once occurred to him that some one might want to check out what he or his guest lecturers were saying? I also find hiding behind the "joke" of it all extremely offensive. It is all too common to for people to say things that are racist/sexist/homophobic and then one someone reacts negatively to say "can't you take a joke"? There are far more intelligent ways to be funny than resorting to stereotypes. And, since when is "activist" a dirty word? Vassar has a history of being an activist campus, and I'd be sad to be a part of this community if that stopped. If nothing else, activists bring issues into the public forum for real discussion -- which is what attending a liberal arts college is all about.
WEEZY F
Thu Apr 2 2009 11:13
to "your mom": First, I am not attacking you in any way, although it may seem like it. but, what do you know about being a part of a minority group? you've been part of the white majority your whole life and enjoyed the benefits of not experiencing discrimination repeatedly. you say "oriental" just a word. the "N" word is just a word, right? but of course, it has its history behind it during times of slavery until now, which makes it so offensive. the word "oriental" is similar for Asians, except that America chooses not to explain it's meaning well enough to its students. the presence of that word in the title of a mini-course is what immediately caught my attention. it did not signify that there would be a focus ONLY on japanese women, hence the attendance of several members of other Asian heritage (not all were part of ASA). in addition, it sure did seem derogatory towards women from the pictures in your group, hence many women attending. You're right, the guest lecturer did provide some general, accurate information about Japanese culture. but the course description claimed him to be an "expert" -- he spent two months on a Vassar program in Japan after taking a 100 level course in Japanese. now i know this course was to have fun as well, but i thought there was too much generalization and inaccuracy about the culture. some of the slides presented was about Chinese culture, not Japanese. something about a bunch of white boys displaying another culture up on a powerpoint to have "fun" annoys me a bit. if you truly wanted an accurate description of Japanese women as you claim, why not invite ASA or someone of Japanese descent to come and speak beforehand?
2011
Thu Apr 2 2009 11:08
Somebody call a waaaaaambulance. Seriously guys, this is ridiculous. Hey, concerned individual...did you go to the class? With an open mind? If the answer is yes to both of those, which somehow I don't think is the case, you probably would have found that it was not a "woman tasting course" (please, don't be ridiculous) and that it wasn't to "joke around about other ethnic groups". Was there humor involved? Yes, why shouldn't there be? It was not all humor though, a lot of the class was actually very interesting and addressed some differences in Japanese culture, not just for approaching women but also for acting appropriate in general in Japanese society. Furthermore, only about half of the class was about japan at all. Much of it was spent talking about women in general, in the context of social situations. To all you haters, to the small group of determined, stubborn people who get off by be offended and had to seek "justice" by getting a harmless, enjoyable activity shut down...real life, outside this bubble, doesn't work like this. You're lucky you go to a school which has an administration that takes your whining word for everything, does no legitimate investigation themselves, and that will accommodate you so wonderfully. Do you realize how many comedians, writers, and artists would be silenced if the standards for shutting someone up were the same out there? You know what a judge would say to you if you, for example, complained about Conan making a joke on Max Weinberg's expense involving some stereotype about Jews? He'd tell you to stop watch Conan. Not everything needs to be taken so seriously, get over it. Political correctness is well intended, however it is not without it's major flaws. And D, "picking up" women is NOT objectifying them by nature. Discussing appropriate game helps a lot of well-intended guys appropriately approach women they otherwise would not, and it can even cause them to be more well-received. It doesn't mean that there's less respect. And since there are real cultural differences that actually exist, applying them in an attraction context makes sense.






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